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2025-04-15-OSPO-EG

2025-04-15-OSPO-EG

Owned by Masanori Itoh
Last updated: yesterday at 1:41 pm by Walt Miner
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Date/Time

Apr. 15, 2025, 12:00am (UTC) / 09:00pm(JST) via Zoom

Attendees

  • Masanori Itoh (Toyota)

  • Hiroyuki Ishii (Panasonic)

  • Masato Endo (Toyota)

  • Walt (Linux Foundation)

  • Victor Lu

  • @Keiya Nobuta

  • @tokita.hiroshi

  • @Takashi NINJOUJI (Honda)

  • @Naoto YAMAGUCHI (AISIN)

  • Morris Hung (ARM)

Discussion Materials

  • Re-organized discussion points summary from Apr. 1 call

    • to be uploaded

Next Meeting

Apr. 29, 2025 → after Golden Week May. 13

Agenda/Minutes

  1. Sync up of the OSS & Promotion deck status (Itoh, Walt)

  2. Discussion of Next Actions

  3. x

Discussion

  • OSS & Promotion deck status

    • Handed over to Walt, waiting for completion of

    • Asking AB for comments (in 2 weeks)

      • Emily suggested to talk to Mike Wooster(?), the head of business development of LF. He could provide more slides for references. Emily is interested in blog post regarding this activity.

    • Introducing the published deck (and related topics) at AGL AMM Summer in July

      • Walt will check how long the English check and artwork improvement will take to LF.

  • Next Actions

    • OSS & Promotion deck companions

      • (1) Guidelines for behavior – “The Illusions and Truths of Participating in OSS Communities“

        • (en + ja)

      • (2) Incremental improvement of the deck reflecting feedbacks from the consultation trial

        • Usage guide matrix depending on the target and maturity level of company (TBD)

    • Consultation trial

      • Underway for 2 companies

    • Acceleration of OSS Contribution

      • Management side problems break down and resolutions

        • x

      • Hands-on training of contribution depending on various projects/SCMs etc.

        • When contributing to projects hosted at

          • GitHub (, Gitlab)

          • Launchpad

        • When contributing to AGL

          • JIRA : reporting issues

          • Gerrit : contributing code

        • When contributing to Linux kernel

          • mainline kernel

          • LTS kernel

        • More fine grained topics (e.g. git knowhow)

          • How to ‘git send email’

        • etc.

      • Collect real/actual problems through the EG call, prioritize them and discuss solutions (Ishii-san’s suggestion)

        • management side, technical side…

        • Conduct a survey? (Endo)

          • But how can we design the questionary set? (Itoh)

        • examples of questions

          • workload issue (no time to do contribution) → management issue

          • some reluctant(?) inside one’s own company (???)

          • collect pain points/opinions through a shared document (e.g. google doc)

        • Until one month later (There is a vacation season in Japan so called the Golden Week)

      • Continue discussion through Discord/email/confluence, and discuss online on May 13. (next OSPO-EG call)

Apr. 1 call log.

  1. Some additional materials for the (Executive) Presentation deck

    • Matrix of ways to use the presentation depending on the target and company’s maturity level

      • How to spread out this document (promotion strategy) is important. It’s important to improve this document or create variations of this document based on 'real' opinions (feedbacks). (Endo)

  2. Consultation/support for establishing OSPO for companies (meeting base)

    • Explanation story depending on company’s maturity level

    • Actual operations of OSPO after its launch

    • Japan team already began a trial under LF Anti Trust Policy

Brainstorming Seeds

  1. How to accelerate contributions to AGL UCB (priority: highest)

    1. Not only AGL

    2. How to set KPI of contribution

  2. Creating a FAQ for front line engineers

    1. How to handle Corporate CLA

  3. Hands-on of Contribution (Improve technical skills)

  4. Concrete activities of 'Contribution' (Improve Understanding what todo)

    1. In preparation of an explanation deck of ‘Illusion and Reality of Contribution’

  5. Why it’s hard to make contributions (from Japanese?) companies/automotive industry?

    1. company side

      1. system/rule/…

    2. engineers side

      1. x

  6. OSPO-EG as the OSPO of AGL?

  7. AGL UCB SBOM improvement [priority: medium?, direction: different from OSPO-EG focus? (Endo)]

    1. Collaboration with CIAT-EG?

      1. Scarthgap uses SPDX 2.2(2.3?), master uses SPDX 3.

        1. Need discussion.

      2. Coverage/Correctness

        1. Tooling topic : commercial products do not support SPDX 3.x yet.

        2. During EW, there was a discussion of tooling improvement.

      3. discussion

        1. In the context of ELISA, they are interested in SPDX safety profile. When will we move to SPDX 3.0?

        2. 1 year later when Yocto LTS moves to SPDX 3.0.

  8. How to drive upstream based development?

  9. Other issues/pain points

    1. …

  • How to proceed these works?

    • Create sub taskforce?

    •  

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